Reloading, with new components.

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Reloading is fun and economical.  I outlined why I wanted to do it in an article a while back, almost a year to the day:  Reloading 101

For the last year we’ve mostly shot ammo that we’ve reloaded.  Except for maybe 300 rounds of factory, everything we shot this year was reloaded.

So here are the things I’ve learned this year.

1) Cast Lead, while economical, pretty much sucks.  I’ve shot it for a year now, about 12k rounds through various guns (All Glocks), some with aftermarket barrels but we’ve probably put 6k rounds down the Glock 34 this year alone with no ill effects.   Accuracy is fine, it’s just dirtier.

Disclaimer:  Glock says don’t do this.   I’m convinced the reason they say that is because people don’t clean their guns.  I do, before and after every match and generally speaking every time I shoot them.  Yes, I have shot a GSSF match with my LEAD reloads.  I could also give my gun to the Glock Armorer after cleaning and they’d never know it had lead through it.  You just have to keep it clean.

Cast Lead, even good bullets from SNS Casting are dirty.  Speed shooting through a smoke screen is no fun, and in fact I’m kind of tired of it so I’m switching.

Cast Lead is dirty, you will need to clean your guns more often if you use it.  You should clean them anyway, which is why the dirty gun part didn’t bother me.

Cast Lead with a compensator sucks though, the comp will lead up and it’s a bitch to get off.   Another reason I’m switching up.

It’s dirty when you reload, and well, it’s lead.   I’m very diligent about washing my hands after I reload or shoot.  But reload 400 rounds and your bullet handling hand will be frickin dirty, scrub brush required dirty.   Reloading with plated bullets eliminates this.

I’m about 2/3rds the way through my first order from Montana Gold Bullet, Inc. and I’m really liking the results so far.

Reloading is cleaner, shooting is cleaner, and no smoke screen after things get heated up.  

So if you have $340 just laying around, hit them up and order me a box of 9mm 115gr FMJ’s.   You’ll find them here

Your purchase will help further my shooting as well as further promote “Super Molly” in the shooting world.   She needs your support cause I can’t afford her alone Winking smile.

Here’s Molly on one of the stages.  Strings 3 and 5 where her best, but it wasn’t her best day by a long shot.  We’d all been sick and struggling with bronchitis.  So that kind of sucked.

Molly, Glock 34 @ Steel Challenge 2012

I just finished reloading 800 rounds tonight which will get us through Friday Night Steel and the GSSF Match this weekend.  Yep it’s work, but the cost is still about half of factory.

I have never bought new brass.   From the day we started shooting I’ve been saving it.  So when we started reloading, I already had a bunch.   I was given a bucket load by a fellow shooter who had more than he could ever use.

We’ve pretty much maintained that quantity all year long.  We pick up the brass we shoot when we can, but there have been plenty of lost brass matches.   We pretty much volunteer at the local shoots, and if you get your hands dirty setting up or tearing down, you’ll likely be able to pick up some brass.    Again, we’ve bought absolutely ZERO casings.

So, CASE CHECK YOUR AMMO.

Especially before a match.   I’ve had a few ‘issues’ but only about 3 and never if I case checked it.    I get in a hurry and sometimes don’t and I’ve had two rounds stick in the camber that had to be pounded out with a squib rod.  WHOLE rounds mind you, no squibs.

I have had 2 squibs this year with FACTORY FEDERAL .22 ammo that we shoot in Rimfire.  Too bad I can’t reload that.  These were show stopping, bullet stuck in the barrel squibs.  From FACTORY AMMO.  So I’m convinced, do it right and you too can have better ammo than factory.

I’ve used Federal Primers exclusively.  We’ve ‘slicked up’ our Glocks and they can be prone to light strikes with CCI primers, so I just don’t use them.  I’ve had 0 failure to fires this year with my reloads with Federal primers.

Powder, still using Alliant Bullseye.   I like it, it works.

So yeah, if you shoot, you should reload.  It’s fun, and far more economical.  We honestly couldn’t afford to do it if we didn’t.

Happy shooting.

Reloading 101

OK, so about a year ago we started shooting, shortly followed by some local competitive shooting.   (www.fridaynightsteel.com)

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It started out practice and fun and only got more fun.

For now we’re shooing 9mm, because that was the most economical to shoot and the weapons we purchased (and prefer) happen to be in that caliber.

When we started, boxes of decent Federal 9mm was $8.49 (plus tax) a box of 50.  (18¢ each).

This spring that same box of ammo went up to $11.49 a box (plus tax) or 24¢ each.

If you go through 100 rounds on a typical night x 2 shooters, that starts adding up rather quickly.   It is amazing at just how fast you can go through 250 rounds in a practice session ($60).

Enter Reloading

Reloading does a couple of things.   At the base it allows you to assemble ammunition new and sometimes not so new parts .

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1. Case, New or Used but cleaned and polished case.
2. Primer (new)
3. Powder (new)
4. Bullet (new)

It also allows you to tweak the load and tailor it to your needs or what your gun likes best.  

Is it safe?  Absolutely.  Provided you pay attention to what you’re doing.   The two undesirable things that you can do are:

1) Under-charge a load.

This is a ‘squib’.   Provided you’re paying attention when you’re shooting and catch it the worst thing that can happen is you get a bullet lodged in your barrel.   This in itself isn’t so bad, provided you notice and STOP.  If you attempt to shot another round with a bullet lodged in the barrel. Bad, potentially very bad things will happen.

For What It’s Worth:   I have had 2 squibs from production ammo in our short shooting span, so no, production ammo isn’t immune to this either.  Though neither of those left a bullet lodged in the barrel, they were clearly squibs (more of a pffft, and not a Bang!).

It happens…

2) Double Charge/Over Charge

This would be putting two much powder in the round.  It’s certainly possible, but it’s pretty easy to avoid if you watch what you’re doing.  You can add a powder checker to your reloader which will catch grossly over or under charges.

But if you’re careful and watchful, you’ll know where the powder level should be (give or take) when you place the bullet on the case.

The results of an over-charge or double charge can be disastrous as well.   You could blow up your gun in your hand.   So it’s best to avoid this.

Now that that is out of the way.   How much can you save?

First and foremost, save your brass.   I don’t care who you are or what you’re shooting, if you can save your brass do so.   Even if you don’t want to, save it and give it to me.   I started saving brass day one any time I shot at our range or anywhere that I could pick up brass.   That meant I was starting with 5,000 or so rounds of “once fired brass”.

Savings are less significant if you have to buy brass.

Bass Pro Shops had 100 new brass cases for $24.00, that’s simple math 24¢ each, and the same price as fully loaded ammunition.

Other sources for previously used brass:
(prices accurate at the time of writing)

http://www.oncefiredbrass.com/   250 @ $10.00 = 4¢ each

http://www.once-fired-brass.com/ 3500 @ $85.99 = 2.5¢ each

The latter is not too hateful.    The bottom line though is it helps to save it, pick it up when you can and/or know someone that has more than they will ever shoot and barter or trade with them.

So for the purposes of my calculations, my brass cost is 0¢ but you can add 2-4¢ if you need to buy it.    It’s still worthwhile if you have to buy brass, just not as spectacular.

The three other components you need are:

(NoteI am not advocating or recommending any of these components. The purpose of this post is about reloading basics, not to debate the merits of each component.  It is not about which primer or powder is best.  I’m just telling you what I am currently using and it is subject to change based upon price/availability/whim.  You don’t have to use/like or agree with my choices.)

A Primer:  I choose Federal Small Pistol Primers #100.   They are $33.00 a box of 1000, often cheaper if you buy more say 5-10 boxes at a time.   But lets simply call it 3¢ each. 

Some Powder:  I’m currently using Bullseye. I have bought it for less than $20 for a 1lb canister.   1lb has 7000 grains (weight, not granules).   On average let’s say a load is 3.6grains   $20/ (7000/3.6 = 1944) = 1¢ per load.

Primers and Powders are best sourced locally.  To have them shipped usually involves a Hazmat fee that makes it more expensive.

A Bullet: Outside of the brass, this is the most expensive part.

If you’re shooting enough consider lead, cast lead.

9mm115grRNNo one’s ever worn out a barrel shooting lead (so I’ve been told).   It’s cheaper, but not cleaner.   Care must be taken to clean your weapons.  You should be doing this anyway.

Some claim you can’t shoot lead through a Glock stock barrel (or any polygonal barrel for that matter), but I’ve met plenty, and by plenty I mean a lot of people that do on a regular basis without issue.   Granted you MUST clean your barrels, and keep them from fouling that is the key.   If you are lazy or just don’t clean your guns, then don’t shoot lead.

Also don’t breath it or eat it.

FMJ / CMJ or jacketed bullets.

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These are lead bullets, they are just jacketed in usually copper.   FMJ’s usually have lead exposed at the base, CMJ’s are complete metal jackets.

These are the basics, anything that’s not a pretty typical round nose basic bullet only gets more expensive.   Not saying you don’t want that but for target shooting/plinking/steel shooting, this works fine.

Consider also that you can buy FMJ, Hollow Points or good defensive bullets and make your own exotic loads for less than 25¢ each.   Some of these defensive rounds can cost upwards of $20 for as few as 20 in factory exotic defensive ammo.

Bullet Sources:

These are by no means the only sources but costs are typical.

Bullets are HEAVY to ship so be sure to factor in shipping costs or go with someone who includes it in the price.   USPS “If it fits it ships” must hate these guys.   2000 lead bullets weights in at like 30lbs?

Cast Lead:   We like the guys at SNSCasting.com  the 9mm round nose 115gr bullets above are $58.50 per 1000, but shipping is additional.  My cost for 2000 was 131.15 including shipping.  or  $131.15/2000 = 6.5¢ each.

FMJ’s: I’m told but have not ordered any yet is from Montana Gold.

Right now they show 9mm 115 RN for $298/4000 (delivered).   You need to buy them by the case (4000) to make this make sense.   $298/4000 = 7.4¢ each.

So if you’ve followed along your costs are looking something like:

Brass
Primer
Powder
Cast Lead 6.5¢
Cast Lead Total 10.5¢ each or $5.25 a box of 50
Savings That’s saving $7.04 a box on our $11.49 (plus tax) box of Federal from Wal-Mart
   
Brass
Primer
Powder
FMJ 7.4¢
FMJ 11.5¢ each or $5.75 a box of 50
Savings That’s saving $6.79 a box on our $11.49 (plus tax) box of Federal from Wal-Mart

 

That’s a less than half or about 1/2 of Wal-Mart pricing which is honestly about the cheapest place to buy factory ammo when in stock.   The savings only get better for other calibers like .380 .40 and .45, etc.

If you reload your own you aren’t subject to their rationing, at least our Wal-mart may or may not let you buy as much as you want depending on what they have in stock.

You also don’t have to worry about if it’s in stock, though you do have to worry about stock on powder/primers, etc.   Hopefully you’ll buy more stock than enough to do 1000 at a time.

So what’s it cost to get set up to save this kind of money?

xl650Well the Cadillac for handgun loading is the Dillon Precision 650XL.  with a case feeder.  And all the little extras that you need:

– A Scale

– A Tumbler

– Media

– A Media Separator

– Calipers

– Bullet Puller

– Dies

– Case checker

– boxes/containers

– etc.

Some of these things are optional but they really make the process much much smoother.

This all rings in at approx. $1600.00

At that cost, it will take me 320 boxes at $5.00 savings per box, or 16,000 rounds for the reloader to pay for itself.   It’s all gravy after that though.

Again, there are other benefits:

– Tailored loads
– Flexibility, I can make what I want when I want provided I keep the parts in stock.
– No more driving around trying to find ammo.
– No more getting told by the Wal-Mart guy (4 box limit today).

The downsides…

Well you have to pull the lever yourself and it takes time.  Once you get rolling you can easily do 800 to 1000 rounds an hour with the 650.   I didn’t believe that at first but it’s true. 

Also reloading makes you want to shoot more.  After all it’s costing you less 🙂

It takes space, you need a good amount of work area to do it.   I have a 4×8 workbench that totally consumed with reloading stuff now.

And if for some reason factory ammo gets cheap, you stop reloading and simply start saving brass for when it’s not so cheap.

Other than that it’s really quite simple, economical and fun.

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